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Posted: 24 Oct 2006 at 5:02pm | IP Logged Quote JohnCody

As of 9/28/06 Handango deleted all of my products from their catalog for no stated reason! Click Here for more details

This directly effects the future development of all my mobile apps. Please use the above article link to see why and how you can send Handango your comments on this issue and hopefully get them to reconsider their decision.

Remember: In the event that Handango does re-open my account (without any penalties and with my full ad balance), I would like to thank everyone who took the time to send Handango a constructive comment (either for or opposed to re-opening my account) with a coupon good for a FREE product or upgrade from OMNISOFT!



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Posted: 24 Oct 2006 at 11:07pm | IP Logged Quote gai-jin

John,
   I hope handago does the honorable thing and restores your account, but based on your emails with them, it doesn't seem likely.  I've sent an email through the form, hope it helps.

In the mean time, consider adding your apps to mobihand.com

They are the new affiliate store of smartphonethoughts.com, so I would hope you'll get some good sales there. 

Good luck!
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Posted: 24 Oct 2006 at 11:12pm | IP Logged Quote griffee

John,

So the last time you had any communication with Handango was 9/28? 

Did you ever find out with whom you were speaking with...somehow "Handango Partners Team" isn't too cordial.  Was there ever any option for telephone communication?  Either way, you had much more patience with any company than I might display under the same circumstances.

I'm not sure my small business clout will offer much weight, but will compose an intelligent message for the cause. 

Take heart, I know all your forum members are behind you and will do whatever we can!



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Posted: 24 Oct 2006 at 11:19pm | IP Logged Quote mOOky

Here's what I posted (I don't know if you are doing an anonymous pass-through or if you're recording them, but maybe others will find inspiration in my babble):

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Greetings.  I am a former customer of John Cody, and I must tell you that I am dismayed to find the way that Handango treats one of its most loyal clients.  John has written probably one of the finest pieces of software available for Smartphone users, as has been rated by multiple independent reviewers.  If your company, regardless of who, chose to honor him with a prize of free advertising, than he should receive it.  Your internal affairs of rearranging staff is not an excuse not to honor standing agreements.  In reality, $5000 of "marketing write-off" is a miniscule amount, most companies would spend twice that or more to retain a quality client like John.  If Handango chooses not to reinstate John's account, I will personally recommend to the 130+ Blackberry users at my corporation to never purchase software through Handango.  There are alternatives to you out there aplenty.  I am a senior technical person at my firm and employees look to me for advice.  I will simply have to inform them that Handango is a disreputable company that does not stand behind it's word, and therefore any transactions with or through them can not be considered trustworthy.  If, on the other hand, you choose to do what most honorable people would do, and reinstate his account and give him is paltry advertising allowance to use on his own schedule (no time restrictions) I would see this as a sign of good faith that Handango can be honest, own up to when they've made a mistake, make good on past promises and move on.  I would then have a high opinion of you and recommend you as the first place to shop for mobile software.

The decision is yours.  Pretend you actually had a human presence and were standing in front of John and 130 potential customers.  What would you do?

Good luck John.  And let me know when you turn to the dark side and start coding for the Blackberry's.  :)


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Posted: 25 Oct 2006 at 12:08am | IP Logged Quote quacka

I feel for you mate.

This kind of things should never happen. It seems like they don't want to honour their prize so they close your account.

In Australia we have consumer affairs to prevent these things from happenning. I don't know where Handago is located there is somebody you can report to about this case.

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Posted: 25 Oct 2006 at 3:50am | IP Logged Quote Countdown

here's my post - good luck!

Date/Time: 10/25/2006 3:45:52 AM

Your Name: Glen Collinson

Comment: Hi.

a little surprised to hear from John Cody / Omnisoft that you are no longer providing him with an account.

I have purchased omnisoft products and upgraded them, and have found that in about 20 years of working in IT and using various products personally and professionally, i have to say that omnisoft products are some of the best quality and functionality i have used.

i also note that their products have scored highly in various reviews and that he has won some awards for them.

It also seems pretty unjust to revoke a 'prize' that has been awarded fairly.

Please reconsider your stance on closing their account with handango - i am sure that it will be of benefit to both handango AND omnisoft to continue that relationship.

best regards

Glen Collinson (UK)



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Posted: 25 Oct 2006 at 4:26am | IP Logged Quote Ne1cy

This kind of stuff irks me to no end. Also I've dealt with Handango and made sure to buy from Omnisoft.

Hope this helps. Good Luck with it.

I urge you to refute your decision in regards to John Cody's account.

He has been your loyal client for 6 yrs. Had you not awarded him the prize in the first place the problem would not have been created. However you did, and thus you should honor it.

The fact that your employee and company shuffle has occurred should have no bearing on an agreement made on Handango’s behalf.

Although he was not pleased, he adapted and presented a doable plan. It appeared the latter contact, who did not have the decency to give his name seemed to be in accord.

 

I do not know John Cody. I do know the software he created (Alerts and Vnotes) was made to facilitate people’s lives. He provides support, clear, and prompt communication.

I have a head injury and live by cues and reminders. It would be in Handagos best interest to continue to provide access to these programs in order for others to benefit as much as I.

 

Further more he openly encourages people to renew their trial to his affordable software.

This person would be an asset to promote not penalized for winning a contest. Please reconsider.

 

 

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Posted: 25 Oct 2006 at 5:00am | IP Logged Quote bwapad

Dear john,

I really feel you on this one, bro.

This is my penny in the bag. Hope it helps.

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To Whom it may concern

I have not personaly purchased any of OmniSoft's products (yet) but have been using their forums for advice on development for the mobile platform. Judging from the correspondence between him and your company it surely seems like most of the blame is on your part and the problem should thus be approached with that in mind and not shying away from honoring your agreement by deleting his account because you felt (my own assumption) that he is most probable a difficult customer and you don't want to deal with him. Which to me seems pretty unfair/ unjust to treat a loyal customer, one who has been a client of yours for 6 years. Not to mention that you most probably made a lot of money from the products he sold through you.

So please, show that Handango is a reputable company and do the honorable thing by re-instating his account along with the balance on his raffle reward. As I was using your website a lot and was intending on buying my mobile applications through Handango.

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Posted: 25 Oct 2006 at 5:12am | IP Logged Quote gai-jin

John--- Make 'em honor your advertising dollars anyway, just have the ads link to smartphone.net or mobihand's page for your products! :)

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Posted: 25 Oct 2006 at 5:53am | IP Logged Quote GaryM

John: Here is what I sent Handango, using your form:

 

To the Handango Partners Team regarding John Cody

 

I am a customer of John Cody, having bought one of his products via Handango.  I read the documentation related to your handling of John Cody's raffle prize of $5000 of advertising, including emails between you and him.  I believe that you are being unfair to him.

 

I see two key points here:

1. John won the prize fair and square but wasn't told about the time limit for advertising when he won.

2. Both of you spent significant time in trying to reach a resolution, but you ran out of patience and decided that you could eliminate the problem by cancelling his contract.

 

You have cancelled his contract without fulfilling outstanding obligations (the advertising), which is clearly unethical and may be actionable.

 

The result is that you win, saving $5000, and he loses, both the $5000 in advertising and his sales outlet through you.  My reaction: BIG GUY steps on little guy.

 

If your problem was the time being spent on this issue, you could have told him that rather than just cancelling him.  If your problem was the $5000, you are solving it at his expense, and shame on you.

 

I can suggest an alternative solution:

1. Give John until next August (one year after first mentioning the one-year limit), or next November (one year after resolving the issue) or next December 31 (if you feel generous) to spend the remainder of the $5000.

2. Require John to submit a firm advertising plan now that conforms to your current rules and accounts for the remaining credit, with no changes permitted.

3. Continue his contract at least until the advertising credit (your obligation) runs out.

4. Continue his contract beyond that unless and until you have a reason other than this issue for cancelling.

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